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	<title>Comments on: Have We Failed?</title>
	<link>http://thechurchofthebigring.com/2008/05/23/have-we-failed/</link>
	<description>Your online source of 2 wheeled salvation.</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 23:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The Seldom Killer</title>
		<link>http://thechurchofthebigring.com/2008/05/23/have-we-failed/#comment-2576</link>
		<dc:creator>The Seldom Killer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 08:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thechurchofthebigring.com/2008/05/23/have-we-failed/#comment-2576</guid>
		<description>You should come to Europe. I was on a touring holiday in the South of France with TBL and every time a club run passed us in either direction almost everyone would wave at us, even the 20 man double pace line trying to break terminal velocity on a descent.

Mind you, if you can't respect a rider pushing a double bagged rig up a 20%, then who can you respect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should come to Europe. I was on a touring holiday in the South of France with TBL and every time a club run passed us in either direction almost everyone would wave at us, even the 20 man double pace line trying to break terminal velocity on a descent.</p>
<p>Mind you, if you can&#8217;t respect a rider pushing a double bagged rig up a 20%, then who can you respect.</p>
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		<title>By: Brewer</title>
		<link>http://thechurchofthebigring.com/2008/05/23/have-we-failed/#comment-1541</link>
		<dc:creator>Brewer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 11:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thechurchofthebigring.com/2008/05/23/have-we-failed/#comment-1541</guid>
		<description>Who's "grouchy?"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who&#8217;s &#8220;grouchy?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: The Rev</title>
		<link>http://thechurchofthebigring.com/2008/05/23/have-we-failed/#comment-1520</link>
		<dc:creator>The Rev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 04:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thechurchofthebigring.com/2008/05/23/have-we-failed/#comment-1520</guid>
		<description>Thank you Brother.  It is easy to get caught up in the elitist nature of our sport.  Here in the good old USA riding is something we get to do.  In other parts of the world a bike is a tool.  Something you have to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Brother.  It is easy to get caught up in the elitist nature of our sport.  Here in the good old USA riding is something we get to do.  In other parts of the world a bike is a tool.  Something you have to do.</p>
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		<title>By: El Hammermeister</title>
		<link>http://thechurchofthebigring.com/2008/05/23/have-we-failed/#comment-1460</link>
		<dc:creator>El Hammermeister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 04:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thechurchofthebigring.com/2008/05/23/have-we-failed/#comment-1460</guid>
		<description>http://www.worldbicyclerelief.org/_images/galleries/zambia/large/9091_Taxistand.jpg
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Not a spoke protector in sight, and platform pedals, how unhip.    I wonder if the spoilers on the back are legal.   I’d mentor the second guy in that break:  close it up a little bit.

So, bike snobs, take a look at this:  http://www.worldbicyclerelief.org/  There are quite a few grades of gruppos below Ultegra.</description>
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<p>Not a spoke protector in sight, and platform pedals, how unhip.    I wonder if the spoilers on the back are legal.   I’d mentor the second guy in that break:  close it up a little bit.</p>
<p>So, bike snobs, take a look at this:  <a href="http://www.worldbicyclerelief.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.worldbicyclerelief.org/</a>  There are quite a few grades of gruppos below Ultegra.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://thechurchofthebigring.com/2008/05/23/have-we-failed/#comment-1304</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 23:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thechurchofthebigring.com/2008/05/23/have-we-failed/#comment-1304</guid>
		<description>I am old, only sometimes grumpy and   roll over holes on my road bike, cause, well, I just do. I do point them out though, and I wave and say hello to everyone I see, even when SUV takes me out I wave and smile.

People really take themselves wayyyyyy toooooooo seriously, just today, some one mentioned how they blame to promoter for not telling them a mtb race course may be muddy, on a pre-ride, 1 day after it rained, and last week someone complained cause they were too scared to pass some one slower on the DH in the weeds, saying the slow person should just stop. Oh hell I'm ranting about people unwilling to take responsibility for their life again.

We ride bikes, sometimes for joy, commuting, racing, fitness, but we get to, that is the point, millions over others don't even have the luxury, we should all just chill the fuck out and enjoy, for a change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am old, only sometimes grumpy and   roll over holes on my road bike, cause, well, I just do. I do point them out though, and I wave and say hello to everyone I see, even when SUV takes me out I wave and smile.</p>
<p>People really take themselves wayyyyyy toooooooo seriously, just today, some one mentioned how they blame to promoter for not telling them a mtb race course may be muddy, on a pre-ride, 1 day after it rained, and last week someone complained cause they were too scared to pass some one slower on the DH in the weeds, saying the slow person should just stop. Oh hell I&#8217;m ranting about people unwilling to take responsibility for their life again.</p>
<p>We ride bikes, sometimes for joy, commuting, racing, fitness, but we get to, that is the point, millions over others don&#8217;t even have the luxury, we should all just chill the fuck out and enjoy, for a change.</p>
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		<title>By: Chelsea</title>
		<link>http://thechurchofthebigring.com/2008/05/23/have-we-failed/#comment-1295</link>
		<dc:creator>Chelsea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 22:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thechurchofthebigring.com/2008/05/23/have-we-failed/#comment-1295</guid>
		<description>Riding bikes is fuN! Either fixed, road, bmx, whatever. We can all have fun together, no? You know, nobody's complaining about the guys down on their luck riding pink bikes that look stolen. Lay off the young hipster and snotty spandex guy. Just jump on the band wagon - cycling is fun. That's why we do it right? (aside from the whole gas prices thing and responsibility thing..)

What are we complaining about again? I forget...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Riding bikes is fuN! Either fixed, road, bmx, whatever. We can all have fun together, no? You know, nobody&#8217;s complaining about the guys down on their luck riding pink bikes that look stolen. Lay off the young hipster and snotty spandex guy. Just jump on the band wagon - cycling is fun. That&#8217;s why we do it right? (aside from the whole gas prices thing and responsibility thing..)</p>
<p>What are we complaining about again? I forget&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: zed</title>
		<link>http://thechurchofthebigring.com/2008/05/23/have-we-failed/#comment-1288</link>
		<dc:creator>zed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 21:26:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thechurchofthebigring.com/2008/05/23/have-we-failed/#comment-1288</guid>
		<description>Some of us don't care for the fixed culture or the racing culture and just want the bike community culture.  The idea of riding a bicycle as part of a community, where the objective isn't who is quickest, or the hippest, but the idea is to be among friends and gain new friends. how keen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of us don&#8217;t care for the fixed culture or the racing culture and just want the bike community culture.  The idea of riding a bicycle as part of a community, where the objective isn&#8217;t who is quickest, or the hippest, but the idea is to be among friends and gain new friends. how keen.</p>
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		<title>By: utahsoul</title>
		<link>http://thechurchofthebigring.com/2008/05/23/have-we-failed/#comment-1270</link>
		<dc:creator>utahsoul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 19:06:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thechurchofthebigring.com/2008/05/23/have-we-failed/#comment-1270</guid>
		<description>The wave from other brothers in the the 801 will only come if you are wearing a bright colored jersey full of sponsors and riding a 6K steed. Riding a non-tailored mount in baggy shorts, beard, and a 1990 Lemond style helmet will be met with only a shrug and then eyes looking the opposite direction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The wave from other brothers in the the 801 will only come if you are wearing a bright colored jersey full of sponsors and riding a 6K steed. Riding a non-tailored mount in baggy shorts, beard, and a 1990 Lemond style helmet will be met with only a shrug and then eyes looking the opposite direction.</p>
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		<title>By: kg</title>
		<link>http://thechurchofthebigring.com/2008/05/23/have-we-failed/#comment-1266</link>
		<dc:creator>kg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 16:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thechurchofthebigring.com/2008/05/23/have-we-failed/#comment-1266</guid>
		<description>If you ride a bike you are my brother, and as my brother it is my job to teach you the way.  But roadies not waving goes way back, and if the fixie guy waved, then it's a good sign.

Noobs will learn or they will go onto something else.

This too shall pass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you ride a bike you are my brother, and as my brother it is my job to teach you the way.  But roadies not waving goes way back, and if the fixie guy waved, then it&#8217;s a good sign.</p>
<p>Noobs will learn or they will go onto something else.</p>
<p>This too shall pass.</p>
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		<title>By: MM</title>
		<link>http://thechurchofthebigring.com/2008/05/23/have-we-failed/#comment-1257</link>
		<dc:creator>MM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 12:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thechurchofthebigring.com/2008/05/23/have-we-failed/#comment-1257</guid>
		<description>Truer words have never been spoken...
We have folks here who get yelled at by the group only to argue that their noob way is proper...grinds my gears...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Truer words have never been spoken&#8230;<br />
We have folks here who get yelled at by the group only to argue that their noob way is proper&#8230;grinds my gears&#8230;</p>
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